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		<title>By: Luna</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/12/11/why-im-enjoying-toradora/#comment-38201</link>
		<dc:creator>Luna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t watched much anime.I like this one but am a bit frustrated with the characters at times.I don&#039;t want to spoil the ending for those who haven&#039;t see it .I wouldn&#039;t say I was unhappy with it just somewhat dissatisfied.It seems a very different outcome could have been reached if some of the main characters had just said what they wanted to say(but then again there wouldn&#039;t be a show then).The end kinda leaves all the series of events that transpire to be a bit pointless,and we reach what was at one point an obvious end to the story.Having said that I did enjoy the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t watched much anime.I like this one but am a bit frustrated with the characters at times.I don&#8217;t want to spoil the ending for those who haven&#8217;t see it .I wouldn&#8217;t say I was unhappy with it just somewhat dissatisfied.It seems a very different outcome could have been reached if some of the main characters had just said what they wanted to say(but then again there wouldn&#8217;t be a show then).The end kinda leaves all the series of events that transpire to be a bit pointless,and we reach what was at one point an obvious end to the story.Having said that I did enjoy the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Phantom</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/12/11/why-im-enjoying-toradora/#comment-28881</link>
		<dc:creator>Phantom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear it was the best Romance/Comedy anime I&#039;ve ever seen!!!!....They should make another season for god&#039;s sake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear it was the best Romance/Comedy anime I&#8217;ve ever seen!!!!&#8230;.They should make another season for god&#8217;s sake!</p>
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		<title>By: bateszi</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/12/11/why-im-enjoying-toradora/#comment-22432</link>
		<dc:creator>bateszi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-22406&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Celeste&lt;/a&gt; - I think you&#039;ve nailed it, and that sense of &#039;hidden depth&#039; is probably the best thing about Toradora, and is why, for me at least, it is (mostly) superior to its more generic peers (of which I&#039;m including the likes of Love Hina). Your &#039;half-formed people&#039; is a particularly eloquent turn of phrase phrase, by the way. I never really looked at it like that, or at least, not with such evocative clarity. As an actual study of youth, then, Toradora is riveting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-22406' rel="nofollow">@Celeste</a> &#8211; I think you&#8217;ve nailed it, and that sense of &#8216;hidden depth&#8217; is probably the best thing about Toradora, and is why, for me at least, it is (mostly) superior to its more generic peers (of which I&#8217;m including the likes of Love Hina). Your &#8216;half-formed people&#8217; is a particularly eloquent turn of phrase phrase, by the way. I never really looked at it like that, or at least, not with such evocative clarity. As an actual study of youth, then, Toradora is riveting.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/12/11/why-im-enjoying-toradora/#comment-22406</link>
		<dc:creator>Celeste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t believe i missed you make a post on Toradora!

i find sort of a guilty pleasure in the show. You say that their character types are archetypal - and that it&#039;s a bad thing - but i don&#039;t think this stereotypical-ness is a bad thing. rather, i think it makes the show. but let me back up and explain myself.

after a few years out of the high school, i think i can look back and say that, regardless of how mature or immature i may have been, i and everyone around me were half-formed people: because we were so young, and due to the nature of high school, sheltered from the world, we only had limited resources from which to paint a picture of &quot;who we wanted to be&quot;. for some this was anime, for many, television or books. That&#039;s why, i think, even in reality, high schoolers lend themselves to fitting into stereotypes: the jock, the nerd, the drama kid. very, very few people in high school have enough experience as people to really have a defined, individual and rounded personality. at that age, we&#039;re all stereotypes, with little glimmers of something more - sound familiar? this is what the characters in Toradora show us. they are their stereotypes, but that&#039;s only because they haven&#039;t fully figured out how to balance what they want to be and who they already are. thus, we get someone like Ami, or even Taiga.

the beauty of Toradora, for me, is how well they handle this: by playing up the stereotype and the &lt;i&gt;thoughtlessness&lt;/i&gt; of the characters, they can play up the conflict within them. in the end, the show is about silly little crushes, but the simplicity of the characters in most situation is exactly how high school is: simple, mindless and usually stereotypical.

(i&#039;m making toradora sound much more profound than it really is, i think.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t believe i missed you make a post on Toradora!</p>
<p>i find sort of a guilty pleasure in the show. You say that their character types are archetypal &#8211; and that it&#8217;s a bad thing &#8211; but i don&#8217;t think this stereotypical-ness is a bad thing. rather, i think it makes the show. but let me back up and explain myself.</p>
<p>after a few years out of the high school, i think i can look back and say that, regardless of how mature or immature i may have been, i and everyone around me were half-formed people: because we were so young, and due to the nature of high school, sheltered from the world, we only had limited resources from which to paint a picture of &#8220;who we wanted to be&#8221;. for some this was anime, for many, television or books. That&#8217;s why, i think, even in reality, high schoolers lend themselves to fitting into stereotypes: the jock, the nerd, the drama kid. very, very few people in high school have enough experience as people to really have a defined, individual and rounded personality. at that age, we&#8217;re all stereotypes, with little glimmers of something more &#8211; sound familiar? this is what the characters in Toradora show us. they are their stereotypes, but that&#8217;s only because they haven&#8217;t fully figured out how to balance what they want to be and who they already are. thus, we get someone like Ami, or even Taiga.</p>
<p>the beauty of Toradora, for me, is how well they handle this: by playing up the stereotype and the <i>thoughtlessness</i> of the characters, they can play up the conflict within them. in the end, the show is about silly little crushes, but the simplicity of the characters in most situation is exactly how high school is: simple, mindless and usually stereotypical.</p>
<p>(i&#8217;m making toradora sound much more profound than it really is, i think.)</p>
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		<title>By: Hopeful_monster</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/12/11/why-im-enjoying-toradora/#comment-22216</link>
		<dc:creator>Hopeful_monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must admit wasn&#039;t really going to follow this one to start with. Dislike harems series due to their predictability and lack of any kind of plot, grasp of real human emotions. WHat first got me about this series (after the first few episodes) was that i wasn&#039;t sure who whould end up with who. Normally you can tell after often the first 5 minutes, but after 11 episodes still unsure. Even with Tagia&#039;s failurific confession, Kitamura didn&#039;t flat out reject her but neither did he say yes. Likewise it&#039;s unlikely Minori is oblivious to  Ryuji&#039;s attention, may not be sure herself about how reciprocated it is. There are a lot more greys in this show than the standard black and white of standard harems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must admit wasn&#8217;t really going to follow this one to start with. Dislike harems series due to their predictability and lack of any kind of plot, grasp of real human emotions. WHat first got me about this series (after the first few episodes) was that i wasn&#8217;t sure who whould end up with who. Normally you can tell after often the first 5 minutes, but after 11 episodes still unsure. Even with Tagia&#8217;s failurific confession, Kitamura didn&#8217;t flat out reject her but neither did he say yes. Likewise it&#8217;s unlikely Minori is oblivious to  Ryuji&#8217;s attention, may not be sure herself about how reciprocated it is. There are a lot more greys in this show than the standard black and white of standard harems.</p>
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		<title>By: gaguri</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/12/11/why-im-enjoying-toradora/#comment-22211</link>
		<dc:creator>gaguri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 14:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Bateszi ^^. Privilege is mine to receive kind encouragements from an eloquent blogger such as yourself.</description>
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		<title>By: bateszi</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/12/11/why-im-enjoying-toradora/#comment-22126</link>
		<dc:creator>bateszi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Johny: Thanks for the AMV link, it really captured the spirit of True Tears. MUST. SHOW. OTHERS. Also, while I&#039;m on an AMV binge (all your fault), here&#039;s a completely random link:

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Kemonozume to &#039;Where is my Mind?&#039; There surely couldn&#039;t be a more perfect combination!?

Suffice to say I agree with your thoughts on Toradora. Ami and Minori are particularly inscrutable at this point, which makes them all the more fascinating to watch.

@IcyStorm: I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll maintain this standard until the end. If nothing else, the execution/direction of Toradora has been really consistent so far. I suppose my only concern is that with this being an adaptation of an on-going light novel series, they might suddenly run out of source material/be forced into an open end?

@Ryvius: I&#039;ve steadily come to accept Ryuuji&#039;s passive personality as more of an asset. I was really bugged by the manner in which Taiga treated him at first, but he isn&#039;t such a blithering idiot in the vein of someone like Keitaro of Love Hina, rather, it&#039;s almost as if he&#039;s trying to help her by shouldering the worst of her insecurities/issues. We&#039;ll see where it all goes, I guess, but there&#039;s definitely more to Ryuuji than the typically spineless harem lead.

@gaguri: Oh well, I can&#039;t really argue with that. Toradora is kind of generic, whether or not you continue with it depends on your attachment to the characters. I think I was hooked by them almost immediately. 

By the way, it&#039;s always nice to meet an eloquent new anime blogger! You can&#039;t do much better than by starting with an entry on Honey &amp; Clover too. So, I hope to read more from you, gaguri.

@Martin: Half way through the first episode? Sounds like you&#039;re almost as jaded as me! My own record for this kind of thing will forever remain Black Cat, which I stopped watching after around 30 seconds of the opening theme of the first episode!

@Kairu Ishimaru: A reason that is short and simple, much like Taiga :)

@Wildcard: It&#039;s weird how opinions change over time. I started out really loathing Taiga&#039;s attitude, but I&#039;ve warmed to it over time, while on the other hand, you&#039;re obviously tiring of it. I think I&#039;m probably more forgiving right now because I&#039;m expecting some kind of climax to their relationship sooner or later. Of course, I&#039;ll definitely change my tune if nothing happens between them and Ryuuji&#039;s fate is simply to be the &#039;dog&#039; forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johny: Thanks for the AMV link, it really captured the spirit of True Tears. MUST. SHOW. OTHERS. Also, while I&#8217;m on an AMV binge (all your fault), here&#8217;s a completely random link:</p>
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<p>Kemonozume to &#8216;Where is my Mind?&#8217; There surely couldn&#8217;t be a more perfect combination!?</p>
<p>Suffice to say I agree with your thoughts on Toradora. Ami and Minori are particularly inscrutable at this point, which makes them all the more fascinating to watch.</p>
<p>@IcyStorm: I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll maintain this standard until the end. If nothing else, the execution/direction of Toradora has been really consistent so far. I suppose my only concern is that with this being an adaptation of an on-going light novel series, they might suddenly run out of source material/be forced into an open end?</p>
<p>@Ryvius: I&#8217;ve steadily come to accept Ryuuji&#8217;s passive personality as more of an asset. I was really bugged by the manner in which Taiga treated him at first, but he isn&#8217;t such a blithering idiot in the vein of someone like Keitaro of Love Hina, rather, it&#8217;s almost as if he&#8217;s trying to help her by shouldering the worst of her insecurities/issues. We&#8217;ll see where it all goes, I guess, but there&#8217;s definitely more to Ryuuji than the typically spineless harem lead.</p>
<p>@gaguri: Oh well, I can&#8217;t really argue with that. Toradora is kind of generic, whether or not you continue with it depends on your attachment to the characters. I think I was hooked by them almost immediately. </p>
<p>By the way, it&#8217;s always nice to meet an eloquent new anime blogger! You can&#8217;t do much better than by starting with an entry on Honey &amp; Clover too. So, I hope to read more from you, gaguri.</p>
<p>@Martin: Half way through the first episode? Sounds like you&#8217;re almost as jaded as me! My own record for this kind of thing will forever remain Black Cat, which I stopped watching after around 30 seconds of the opening theme of the first episode!</p>
<p>@Kairu Ishimaru: A reason that is short and simple, much like Taiga <img src='http://www.bateszi.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Wildcard: It&#8217;s weird how opinions change over time. I started out really loathing Taiga&#8217;s attitude, but I&#8217;ve warmed to it over time, while on the other hand, you&#8217;re obviously tiring of it. I think I&#8217;m probably more forgiving right now because I&#8217;m expecting some kind of climax to their relationship sooner or later. Of course, I&#8217;ll definitely change my tune if nothing happens between them and Ryuuji&#8217;s fate is simply to be the &#8216;dog&#8217; forever.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBigN</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/12/11/why-im-enjoying-toradora/#comment-22117</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBigN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin: Keep in mind that it only really starts to work in the more recent episodes, like from 6 or 7 on. Patience is required. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin: Keep in mind that it only really starts to work in the more recent episodes, like from 6 or 7 on. Patience is required. <img src='http://www.bateszi.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wildcard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wildcard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in agreement about the split personality of the show with sparks of inspiration, and the usual harem fluff. Still, I enjoy Toradora more than I should perhaps. It&#039;s not particularly adventurous with the genre, but it&#039;s solid enough, funny, and occasionally surprisingly emotional. Better than Clannad at least anyway.

Still Ryugi is a punching bag, I really hope he starts standing up for himself soon, it&#039;s becoming a little painful to watch..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in agreement about the split personality of the show with sparks of inspiration, and the usual harem fluff. Still, I enjoy Toradora more than I should perhaps. It&#8217;s not particularly adventurous with the genre, but it&#8217;s solid enough, funny, and occasionally surprisingly emotional. Better than Clannad at least anyway.</p>
<p>Still Ryugi is a punching bag, I really hope he starts standing up for himself soon, it&#8217;s becoming a little painful to watch..</p>
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		<title>By: Kairu Ishimaru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kairu Ishimaru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy Toradora because of Taiga.</description>
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