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		<title>By: bateszi</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/08/14/bitter-sweet-school-days-all-about-lily-chou-chou/#comment-16627</link>
		<dc:creator>bateszi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Enn/ThatQuebecGuy/okiu14: Cheers for responding. When I write these live action posts I do worry that no one will be interested, so thanks for engaging with me on this film and in the subsequent discussion. With regards to an Asian film blog, it&#039;s something that I&#039;ll probably hold off on for a few more months just to see whether or not I can really be compelled to write about it on a consistent basis. It might be a case of a just re branding this blog (removing the specific &#039;anime&#039; part of the title).

@ThatQuebecGuy: I&#039;ve noticed that bullying in Japan is remarkably sophisticated and malicious. I mostly associate bullying with people being aggressive in school, but the systematic humiliation and life-scarring abuse inflicted by these Japanese bullies is that much worse. On a related note, there are always news stories about Japanese school-girls selling their panties to random men in the street, which suggests an innocence appears to be lacking in a lot of Japan&#039;s youth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Enn/ThatQuebecGuy/okiu14: Cheers for responding. When I write these live action posts I do worry that no one will be interested, so thanks for engaging with me on this film and in the subsequent discussion. With regards to an Asian film blog, it&#8217;s something that I&#8217;ll probably hold off on for a few more months just to see whether or not I can really be compelled to write about it on a consistent basis. It might be a case of a just re branding this blog (removing the specific &#8216;anime&#8217; part of the title).</p>
<p>@ThatQuebecGuy: I&#8217;ve noticed that bullying in Japan is remarkably sophisticated and malicious. I mostly associate bullying with people being aggressive in school, but the systematic humiliation and life-scarring abuse inflicted by these Japanese bullies is that much worse. On a related note, there are always news stories about Japanese school-girls selling their panties to random men in the street, which suggests an innocence appears to be lacking in a lot of Japan&#8217;s youth.</p>
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		<title>By: Of Golden Knights and Changing Beetles &#171; The Animanachronism</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/08/14/bitter-sweet-school-days-all-about-lily-chou-chou/#comment-16596</link>
		<dc:creator>Of Golden Knights and Changing Beetles &#171; The Animanachronism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] country - for example, itsubun has examined a drama series, Kou Kou Kyoushi, and Bateszi recently praised a movie with the odd name of All About Lily Chou-Chou - so why shouldn&#8217;t I make an excursion [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] country &#8211; for example, itsubun has examined a drama series, Kou Kou Kyoushi, and Bateszi recently praised a movie with the odd name of All About Lily Chou-Chou &#8211; so why shouldn&#8217;t I make an excursion [...]</p>
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		<title>By: okiu14</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/08/14/bitter-sweet-school-days-all-about-lily-chou-chou/#comment-16469</link>
		<dc:creator>okiu14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll second the Asian film blog.  Of course, the decision is ultimately yours.  Asian film is a great way to access various aspects of Asian culture that westerners may not be exposed to otherwise.  My favorite Asian films often deal with Asian myth and folklore, but I generally appreciate the difference in style , storytelling, pacing, and often the difference in presentation of the &quot;protagonists&quot; that Asian film offers.  I&#039;m more familiar with Japanese film, but I&#039;ve got some exposure to Korean and Chinese film.  More exposure to good films is always welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll second the Asian film blog.  Of course, the decision is ultimately yours.  Asian film is a great way to access various aspects of Asian culture that westerners may not be exposed to otherwise.  My favorite Asian films often deal with Asian myth and folklore, but I generally appreciate the difference in style , storytelling, pacing, and often the difference in presentation of the &#8220;protagonists&#8221; that Asian film offers.  I&#8217;m more familiar with Japanese film, but I&#8217;ve got some exposure to Korean and Chinese film.  More exposure to good films is always welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatQuebecGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/08/14/bitter-sweet-school-days-all-about-lily-chou-chou/#comment-16466</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatQuebecGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bateszi: I agree you should start a film blog, I&#039;ll be getting one sooner or later myself, probably about QuÃƒÂ©becois art and culture. Anyway, I just finished watching All About Lily Chou-Chou, beautiful movie. It offers a weird contrast to my Italian zombie exploitation film marathon, but I was still able to enjoy it fully. The greatest thing about it? The cinematography, it&#039;s sublime, really makes me want to own it on Blu-ray. It brings a lot of memory too, like that time in high school, 2 or 3 years ago, when we had to read a book about the Japanese phenomenon of bullying; &quot;IjimÃƒÂ©, la loi du plus for&quot; by Huguette PÃƒÂ©rol, not that it&#039;s a great book, but for 13-14 years old teenager it delivers and it was kind of hard to read. I&#039;m much more difficult to disturb now, thanks to the great world of cinema!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bateszi: I agree you should start a film blog, I&#8217;ll be getting one sooner or later myself, probably about QuÃƒÂ©becois art and culture. Anyway, I just finished watching All About Lily Chou-Chou, beautiful movie. It offers a weird contrast to my Italian zombie exploitation film marathon, but I was still able to enjoy it fully. The greatest thing about it? The cinematography, it&#8217;s sublime, really makes me want to own it on Blu-ray. It brings a lot of memory too, like that time in high school, 2 or 3 years ago, when we had to read a book about the Japanese phenomenon of bullying; &#8220;IjimÃƒÂ©, la loi du plus for&#8221; by Huguette PÃƒÂ©rol, not that it&#8217;s a great book, but for 13-14 years old teenager it delivers and it was kind of hard to read. I&#8217;m much more difficult to disturb now, thanks to the great world of cinema!</p>
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		<title>By: Enn</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/08/14/bitter-sweet-school-days-all-about-lily-chou-chou/#comment-16377</link>
		<dc:creator>Enn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bateszi: hah, don&#039;t apologize for lengthy replies, that&#039;s what blogging&#039;s about ÃƒÂ©h? Although I&#039;m not one to talk, as I tried to add a paragraph detailing exactly how I didn&#039;t enjoy this movie, but failed because I couldn&#039;t find the right words. I can find myself in your description though: while I didn&#039;t enjoy watching it, I enjoyed being touched by it. In fact, on the way home from work today, I found myself suddenly vividly re-experiencing the feeling I had watching this movie, without any apparent inducement. It affected me alright.

Also: yes, do start up that Asian film blog. I wish my English was better so I could offer you some help (not implying you need or would accept it, mind you). Asian films - classics in particular- aren&#039;t getting the attention they deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bateszi: hah, don&#8217;t apologize for lengthy replies, that&#8217;s what blogging&#8217;s about ÃƒÂ©h? Although I&#8217;m not one to talk, as I tried to add a paragraph detailing exactly how I didn&#8217;t enjoy this movie, but failed because I couldn&#8217;t find the right words. I can find myself in your description though: while I didn&#8217;t enjoy watching it, I enjoyed being touched by it. In fact, on the way home from work today, I found myself suddenly vividly re-experiencing the feeling I had watching this movie, without any apparent inducement. It affected me alright.</p>
<p>Also: yes, do start up that Asian film blog. I wish my English was better so I could offer you some help (not implying you need or would accept it, mind you). Asian films &#8211; classics in particular- aren&#8217;t getting the attention they deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: bateszi</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/08/14/bitter-sweet-school-days-all-about-lily-chou-chou/#comment-16372</link>
		<dc:creator>bateszi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Enn: To be honest, I had a lot of trouble writing this post, which is reflected in that final sentence. I didn&#039;t want to make the movie sound so depressing, but at the same time, it wasn&#039;t exactly optimistic either. This film is a tragedy, ultimately, but all that confusion lead me to the final paragraph, which, I agree, definitely doesn&#039;t capture the essence of All About Lily Chou-Chou.

It&#039;s a very subversive film, I guess, which is why I was struggling to pin down my thoughts. For example, if you take a look at the images above, they are genuienly beautiful, especially the whole scene involving Tsuda and the kites; of course, this objective beauty starkly contrasts with the horrible events of her life, ultimately culminating in her suicide. I suppose what I was trying to say is that even though she had such a hard time with Hoshino, she still had this moment of revelation, a kind of euphoric happiness. That whole scene, including how Hoshino and Yuichi are urging each other to &quot;BREATHE!&quot;, really struck a chord with me. I hate having to constantly use the word &quot;beautiful&quot; to describe it, because I think there might be a word more apt to convey how it makes me feel, it&#039;s beautiful, yet inevitable, sad and tragic.

I don&#039;t blame you for not enjoying it. I didn&#039;t enjoy it either, at least, didn&#039;t enjoy it in a conventional sense. I didn&#039;t finish it feeling happy, I left it feeling angry, annoyed and sad, but I&#039;m glad I watched it, because it effected me in a quite profound way. I guess it&#039;s a nice film to compare with Linda Linda Linda, because while that&#039;s essentially a romantic fantasy about Japanese youth, I suspect All About Lily Chou-Chou is far more realistic.

Sorry, I know that&#039;s a bit of a long reply, but even now, I guess it&#039;s a film that effects me on multiple levels. In short, I agree with your comment!

@okiu14: Thanks for another recommendation, and another film that&#039;s totally flown under my radar until today. Will add it to the list.

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I&#039;m starting to wonder whether or not I should start up an Asian film blog! I watched this movie called &quot;Chaser&quot; the other day [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190539/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IMDB&lt;/a&gt;]; another very good, very stylish and gritty South Korean thriller ala Old Boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Enn: To be honest, I had a lot of trouble writing this post, which is reflected in that final sentence. I didn&#8217;t want to make the movie sound so depressing, but at the same time, it wasn&#8217;t exactly optimistic either. This film is a tragedy, ultimately, but all that confusion lead me to the final paragraph, which, I agree, definitely doesn&#8217;t capture the essence of All About Lily Chou-Chou.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a very subversive film, I guess, which is why I was struggling to pin down my thoughts. For example, if you take a look at the images above, they are genuienly beautiful, especially the whole scene involving Tsuda and the kites; of course, this objective beauty starkly contrasts with the horrible events of her life, ultimately culminating in her suicide. I suppose what I was trying to say is that even though she had such a hard time with Hoshino, she still had this moment of revelation, a kind of euphoric happiness. That whole scene, including how Hoshino and Yuichi are urging each other to &#8220;BREATHE!&#8221;, really struck a chord with me. I hate having to constantly use the word &#8220;beautiful&#8221; to describe it, because I think there might be a word more apt to convey how it makes me feel, it&#8217;s beautiful, yet inevitable, sad and tragic.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame you for not enjoying it. I didn&#8217;t enjoy it either, at least, didn&#8217;t enjoy it in a conventional sense. I didn&#8217;t finish it feeling happy, I left it feeling angry, annoyed and sad, but I&#8217;m glad I watched it, because it effected me in a quite profound way. I guess it&#8217;s a nice film to compare with Linda Linda Linda, because while that&#8217;s essentially a romantic fantasy about Japanese youth, I suspect All About Lily Chou-Chou is far more realistic.</p>
<p>Sorry, I know that&#8217;s a bit of a long reply, but even now, I guess it&#8217;s a film that effects me on multiple levels. In short, I agree with your comment!</p>
<p>@okiu14: Thanks for another recommendation, and another film that&#8217;s totally flown under my radar until today. Will add it to the list.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m starting to wonder whether or not I should start up an Asian film blog! I watched this movie called &#8220;Chaser&#8221; the other day [<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190539/" rel="nofollow">IMDB</a>]; another very good, very stylish and gritty South Korean thriller ala Old Boy.</p>
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		<title>By: okiu14</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/08/14/bitter-sweet-school-days-all-about-lily-chou-chou/#comment-16309</link>
		<dc:creator>okiu14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to take a look at Bitter Sweet School Days.  Sounds interesting.

BTW, just saw Happily Ever After. I hadn&#039;t read the manga so I didn&#039;t know really what to expect.  It was quite a funny, emotional, sweet movie.  I definitely recommend it.  Very good &quot;over&quot;-acting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to take a look at Bitter Sweet School Days.  Sounds interesting.</p>
<p>BTW, just saw Happily Ever After. I hadn&#8217;t read the manga so I didn&#8217;t know really what to expect.  It was quite a funny, emotional, sweet movie.  I definitely recommend it.  Very good &#8220;over&#8221;-acting.</p>
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		<title>By: Enn</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/08/14/bitter-sweet-school-days-all-about-lily-chou-chou/#comment-16302</link>
		<dc:creator>Enn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felt like responding on another movie entry from you, though I won&#039;t add to your list of recommendations again, seeing as how you have plenty.

This was a weird movie. Can&#039;t say I liked watching it, as it aggravated me beyond belief. Especially the girl-gangleader, cheering on the rape of an innocent girl prior to blaming Hoshino when the victim displays her shame outward and another commits suicide. I&#039;ve no history of bullying, but for some reason that unjustice rÃƒÂ©ally gets to me.

In my experience your final sentence (&quot;It knows that life can be harsh, yet has moments of beauty too&quot;) doesn&#039;t quite the capture this movie&#039;s essence though. It implies a balance of the good and the bad, while I felt the bad severely outweighed the good in this film; and even the little good wasn&#039;t ÃƒÂ¡ctually all that good. Against the background of smashed, shut personalities, banged up by shame, humiliation and broken pride, those few moments of (mostly silent) enjoyment might only be considered &#039;good&#039; because they put the pain inducing context &#039;on hold&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felt like responding on another movie entry from you, though I won&#8217;t add to your list of recommendations again, seeing as how you have plenty.</p>
<p>This was a weird movie. Can&#8217;t say I liked watching it, as it aggravated me beyond belief. Especially the girl-gangleader, cheering on the rape of an innocent girl prior to blaming Hoshino when the victim displays her shame outward and another commits suicide. I&#8217;ve no history of bullying, but for some reason that unjustice rÃƒÂ©ally gets to me.</p>
<p>In my experience your final sentence (&#8221;It knows that life can be harsh, yet has moments of beauty too&#8221;) doesn&#8217;t quite the capture this movie&#8217;s essence though. It implies a balance of the good and the bad, while I felt the bad severely outweighed the good in this film; and even the little good wasn&#8217;t ÃƒÂ¡ctually all that good. Against the background of smashed, shut personalities, banged up by shame, humiliation and broken pride, those few moments of (mostly silent) enjoyment might only be considered &#8216;good&#8217; because they put the pain inducing context &#8216;on hold&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bateszi</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/08/14/bitter-sweet-school-days-all-about-lily-chou-chou/#comment-16300</link>
		<dc:creator>bateszi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ThatQuebecGuy: Argh, that&#039;s both good and bad news, because I was looking forward to reading your scanlations, but I suppose it&#039;s good news that Manga-Sketchbook actually stepped up to finish it. Off the top of my head, there were only three chapters left to scanlate? Don&#039;t tell me they&#039;ve scuppered all your hard work with just one chapter to go?

Also, hope you enjoy the movie :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ThatQuebecGuy: Argh, that&#8217;s both good and bad news, because I was looking forward to reading your scanlations, but I suppose it&#8217;s good news that Manga-Sketchbook actually stepped up to finish it. Off the top of my head, there were only three chapters left to scanlate? Don&#8217;t tell me they&#8217;ve scuppered all your hard work with just one chapter to go?</p>
<p>Also, hope you enjoy the movie <img src='http://www.bateszi.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ThatQuebecGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/08/14/bitter-sweet-school-days-all-about-lily-chou-chou/#comment-16239</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatQuebecGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just added the film to my impossibly hefty &quot;want to see&quot; list, thank you!

On a completely unrelated note; it seems that Manga-Sketchbook actually finished their scanlation of Zashiki Onna, don&#039;t know if you knew or if you&#039;re still interested, but it&#039;s there. I guess they saved me quite a bit of work, though I did scanlate a complete chapter for nothing. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just added the film to my impossibly hefty &#8220;want to see&#8221; list, thank you!</p>
<p>On a completely unrelated note; it seems that Manga-Sketchbook actually finished their scanlation of Zashiki Onna, don&#8217;t know if you knew or if you&#8217;re still interested, but it&#8217;s there. I guess they saved me quite a bit of work, though I did scanlate a complete chapter for nothing. <img src='http://www.bateszi.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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