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		<title>By: bateszi</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/04/03/lohengramms-advantage-contrasting-dictatorship-and-democracy/#comment-25243</link>
		<dc:creator>bateszi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;as if mass opinion that values the views of twenty McDonalds employees over one learned man (or nineteen learned man) is superior&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Democracy may not always come up with the right answers, but it certainly comes up with the fairest. Therefore, if the people of a democratic country do happen to make a bad choice, they have no-one but themselves to blame. This freedom to make a mistake or two is so important, as opposed to being a slave to the power of your neighbor.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;If a man is incapable of properly serving the State and bettering society, he should be removed. He can leave quietly and retire, or he can refuse and be shot.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In theory, that&#039;s fine, but as history has proven time and time again, fascist governments rarely &quot;leave quietly and retire&quot;. At least in a democracy, a reigme is accountable to its people and can be removed after it has served its term in power. Fascist governments tend to malinger on for many years, much like the Goldenbaum dynasty, passing on power within, to friends and blood-relatives, rather than to those worthy of the responsibility.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;In such a government, there is little of the petty arguing that is undeniably rampant in democracy. Things are done in the best interests of the people, for they make up the State, without weeks of argument.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re putting too much faith in one man. Lohengramm was an excellent leader, but what if, one day, he were to suddenly decide that all people with black hair should be executed? In such a government, fascist dictators have to the power to impose such a rule. Your very life is subject to the whims of one man. The whole point of democracy is that it doesn&#039;t merely represent only one man&#039;s belief, but that of an entire country (calculated by fair consensus).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;as if mass opinion that values the views of twenty McDonalds employees over one learned man (or nineteen learned man) is superior&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Democracy may not always come up with the right answers, but it certainly comes up with the fairest. Therefore, if the people of a democratic country do happen to make a bad choice, they have no-one but themselves to blame. This freedom to make a mistake or two is so important, as opposed to being a slave to the power of your neighbor.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;If a man is incapable of properly serving the State and bettering society, he should be removed. He can leave quietly and retire, or he can refuse and be shot.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>In theory, that&#8217;s fine, but as history has proven time and time again, fascist governments rarely &#8220;leave quietly and retire&#8221;. At least in a democracy, a reigme is accountable to its people and can be removed after it has served its term in power. Fascist governments tend to malinger on for many years, much like the Goldenbaum dynasty, passing on power within, to friends and blood-relatives, rather than to those worthy of the responsibility.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In such a government, there is little of the petty arguing that is undeniably rampant in democracy. Things are done in the best interests of the people, for they make up the State, without weeks of argument.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re putting too much faith in one man. Lohengramm was an excellent leader, but what if, one day, he were to suddenly decide that all people with black hair should be executed? In such a government, fascist dictators have to the power to impose such a rule. Your very life is subject to the whims of one man. The whole point of democracy is that it doesn&#8217;t merely represent only one man&#8217;s belief, but that of an entire country (calculated by fair consensus).</p>
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		<title>By: al103</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/04/03/lohengramms-advantage-contrasting-dictatorship-and-democracy/#comment-25214</link>
		<dc:creator>al103</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minor nitpick - FPA practices conscription and after FPA tried to use Goldenbaum card against Loengrahm mass volunteering in Empire was more then fleet needed - which is practicaly shows that Loengrahm would easily win democratic elections in Empire... as anyone who dismantled old regime would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minor nitpick &#8211; FPA practices conscription and after FPA tried to use Goldenbaum card against Loengrahm mass volunteering in Empire was more then fleet needed &#8211; which is practicaly shows that Loengrahm would easily win democratic elections in Empire&#8230; as anyone who dismantled old regime would.</p>
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		<title>By: Job Truniht</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/04/03/lohengramms-advantage-contrasting-dictatorship-and-democracy/#comment-25206</link>
		<dc:creator>Job Truniht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A man like me can choose who lives and dies on a very whim.

If that&#039;s not a flaw of democracy, what is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man like me can choose who lives and dies on a very whim.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s not a flaw of democracy, what is?</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/04/03/lohengramms-advantage-contrasting-dictatorship-and-democracy/#comment-25204</link>
		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your logic is so flawed it&#039;s not true. You&#039;re making a broad assumption that mankind needs to elect a leader, as if mass opinion that values the views of twenty McDonalds employees over one learned man(or nineteen learned man) is superior to the lack of deliberation and squabblign that is inherent in autocracy. 

What the proponents of democracy like to envision is a state in which the world is idealised and ambition and ignorance are minimal at best.
The truth, sadly, is that the vast masses of ordinary men are not wise, and elected officials are often ambitious and self serving. 

One could, obviously, say that this is so in autocracy, save that there is no way to dislodge the incompetent leaders. I disagree. If a man is incapable of properly serving the State and bettering society, he should be removed. He can leave quietly and retire, or he can refuse and be shot. Brutal, but necessary. A body cannot survive without an immune system.

In such a government, there is little of the petty arguing that is undeniably rampant in democracy.  Things are done in the best interests of the people, for they make up the State, without weeks of argument. Without the grasping vines of unrestrained free market capitalism reaching into every crack in the foundation, weakening the government. Such a system is vastly superior to democracy; such a system is embodied in Lohengramm&#039;s Empire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your logic is so flawed it&#8217;s not true. You&#8217;re making a broad assumption that mankind needs to elect a leader, as if mass opinion that values the views of twenty McDonalds employees over one learned man(or nineteen learned man) is superior to the lack of deliberation and squabblign that is inherent in autocracy. </p>
<p>What the proponents of democracy like to envision is a state in which the world is idealised and ambition and ignorance are minimal at best.<br />
The truth, sadly, is that the vast masses of ordinary men are not wise, and elected officials are often ambitious and self serving. </p>
<p>One could, obviously, say that this is so in autocracy, save that there is no way to dislodge the incompetent leaders. I disagree. If a man is incapable of properly serving the State and bettering society, he should be removed. He can leave quietly and retire, or he can refuse and be shot. Brutal, but necessary. A body cannot survive without an immune system.</p>
<p>In such a government, there is little of the petty arguing that is undeniably rampant in democracy.  Things are done in the best interests of the people, for they make up the State, without weeks of argument. Without the grasping vines of unrestrained free market capitalism reaching into every crack in the foundation, weakening the government. Such a system is vastly superior to democracy; such a system is embodied in Lohengramm&#8217;s Empire.</p>
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		<title>By: lelangir</title>
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		<dc:creator>lelangir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drafting/conscription was something never really touched upon in the anime. We see a little bit of childly aspirations, but never forced enlistment. It&#039;s interesting you brought that up, since it would have been interesting to see the direct social mechanisms that &quot;coerced&quot; millions upon millions of people to sign up for the military - especially in the FPA; and especially after the FPA&#039;s first disastrous invasion of Imperial territory. Who in their right mind would enlist after that? It&#039;s susceptible to say that there was, of course, loads of propaganda that tailored the situation to the government&#039;s liking, but I don&#039;t really remember a lot of that in the anime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drafting/conscription was something never really touched upon in the anime. We see a little bit of childly aspirations, but never forced enlistment. It&#8217;s interesting you brought that up, since it would have been interesting to see the direct social mechanisms that &#8220;coerced&#8221; millions upon millions of people to sign up for the military &#8211; especially in the FPA; and especially after the FPA&#8217;s first disastrous invasion of Imperial territory. Who in their right mind would enlist after that? It&#8217;s susceptible to say that there was, of course, loads of propaganda that tailored the situation to the government&#8217;s liking, but I don&#8217;t really remember a lot of that in the anime.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;Fortress Against Fortress&#8217;: Fanboying About LoGH 33 &#38; 34 &#171; The Animanachronism</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/04/03/lohengramms-advantage-contrasting-dictatorship-and-democracy/#comment-9910</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8216;Fortress Against Fortress&#8217;: Fanboying About LoGH 33 &#38; 34 &#171; The Animanachronism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reinhard was absent because he didn&#8217;t want to be associated with the campaign if it failed. Lohengramm&#8217;s advantage [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Reinhard was absent because he didn&#8217;t want to be associated with the campaign if it failed. Lohengramm&#8217;s advantage [...]</p>
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		<title>By: IKnight</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/04/03/lohengramms-advantage-contrasting-dictatorship-and-democracy/#comment-9572</link>
		<dc:creator>IKnight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, just finished the 26th episode, &#039;Now cracks a noble heart. Good-night, sweet prince&#039; &lt;em&gt;et cetera&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;et cetera&lt;/em&gt;, on to this blog entry . . .

Excellent dissection of Reinhard&#039;s rise to replace the dwindling Goldenbaum dynasty. As Cameron Probert says, the Alliance&#039;s system seems to have serious problems, but it does at least have some kind of egalitarian ideal.

Perhaps democracies are always falling short of a situation where the people really govern themselves - consider the proportion of MPs who are Oxbridge graduates - and perhaps they tend to be militarily weaker than more restrictive societies. But if a democracy is conquered by a dictatorship I would feel like saying, as one might of a person, that the defeated state was &#039;too good for this world&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, just finished the 26th episode, &#8216;Now cracks a noble heart. Good-night, sweet prince&#8217; <em>et cetera</em>, <em>et cetera</em>, on to this blog entry . . .</p>
<p>Excellent dissection of Reinhard&#8217;s rise to replace the dwindling Goldenbaum dynasty. As Cameron Probert says, the Alliance&#8217;s system seems to have serious problems, but it does at least have some kind of egalitarian ideal.</p>
<p>Perhaps democracies are always falling short of a situation where the people really govern themselves &#8211; consider the proportion of MPs who are Oxbridge graduates &#8211; and perhaps they tend to be militarily weaker than more restrictive societies. But if a democracy is conquered by a dictatorship I would feel like saying, as one might of a person, that the defeated state was &#8216;too good for this world&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Probert</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/04/03/lohengramms-advantage-contrasting-dictatorship-and-democracy/#comment-9550</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Probert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree. Although, I think calling the Alliance a functioning democracy may be taking a bit far. I think one of the points of LoGH is that it isn&#039;t a functioning democracy. That it&#039;s become corrupt... especially considering what happens later on in the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree. Although, I think calling the Alliance a functioning democracy may be taking a bit far. I think one of the points of LoGH is that it isn&#8217;t a functioning democracy. That it&#8217;s become corrupt&#8230; especially considering what happens later on in the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/04/03/lohengramms-advantage-contrasting-dictatorship-and-democracy/#comment-9495</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2008/04/03/lohengramms-advantage-contrasting-dictatorship-and-democracy/#comment-9457</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to recommendations from yourself, KT and IKnight I&#039;ve decided to embark on the daunting episode count of LotGH at last. Posts like this remind me why starting on a 110-part show is actually a good idea - right from the first ep the sheer scale and complexity of its world(universe?)-view is quite simply staggering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to recommendations from yourself, KT and IKnight I&#8217;ve decided to embark on the daunting episode count of LotGH at last. Posts like this remind me why starting on a 110-part show is actually a good idea &#8211; right from the first ep the sheer scale and complexity of its world(universe?)-view is quite simply staggering.</p>
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