Comments on: The end of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/ Anime fan forever Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:38:53 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mako http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-39961 Mako Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:23:34 +0000 http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-39961 Eh, I guess this is kinda pointless but I feel the need to say this somewhere, since none of my friends are into anime I can't really discuss it with them. Anyways, this is the best god damn thing I've ever watched. Just finished watching it through a second time, and good lord is it great. Just wanted to suggest this to anyone who hasn't seen it... Eh, I guess this is kinda pointless but I feel the need to say this somewhere, since none of my friends are into anime I can’t really discuss it with them. Anyways, this is the best god damn thing I’ve ever watched. Just finished watching it through a second time, and good lord is it great. Just wanted to suggest this to anyone who hasn’t seen it…

]]> By: Johny http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12621 Johny Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:57:29 +0000 http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12621 @LaBread - Who said I am elitist? Just because I didn't like GL doesn't mean a thing - it's just a matter of taste. I did watch a ton of anime though. :P Anyway, "The characterization takes common archetypes and brings them to life with a very magical charm; they feel natural and palpable thanks to the very talented animation staff and the incredible script." that's the part where our opinions heavily differ. I just didn't feel the charm of the characters, to me they were just that: common archetypes. The script managed to gain my interest for maybe the first 10 or so episodes. I honestly am not sure why exactly. My best bet would be the following 2 factors: 1)I couldn't get the feel for any of the main characters beside Kamina 2)The epic scale you and Ez are talking about kept pushing me away instead of dragging me in. That's because I'm biased against mecha anime and the bigger the scale, the more my brain wanted to go on strike. As much as the general message of GL was to my liking, the rest of the package just didn't do it for me. As I said before - personal taste. It's not outside the bounds of reality that I would fall in love in GL just as you guys/girls have had GL only had a different setting. Then again, it wouldn'e be GL anymore... ;) I think I've made my opinion clear enough. If something is still not understood then it's not my fault, cause English is not my native language ;) Oh, and it's a pleasure to be discussing here. I'm genuinely surprised with the level of the comments - both the language used and the politeness are greatly above average. Keep it up! @LaBread – Who said I am elitist? Just because I didn’t like GL doesn’t mean a thing – it’s just a matter of taste. I did watch a ton of anime though. :P Anyway, “The characterization takes common archetypes and brings them to life with a very magical charm; they feel natural and palpable thanks to the very talented animation staff and the incredible script.” that’s the part where our opinions heavily differ. I just didn’t feel the charm of the characters, to me they were just that: common archetypes. The script managed to gain my interest for maybe the first 10 or so episodes. I honestly am not sure why exactly. My best bet would be the following 2 factors:
1)I couldn’t get the feel for any of the main characters beside Kamina
2)The epic scale you and Ez are talking about kept pushing me away instead of dragging me in. That’s because I’m biased against mecha anime and the bigger the scale, the more my brain wanted to go on strike.
As much as the general message of GL was to my liking, the rest of the package just didn’t do it for me. As I said before – personal taste. It’s not outside the bounds of reality that I would fall in love in GL just as you guys/girls have had GL only had a different setting. Then again, it wouldn’e be GL anymore… ;)
I think I’ve made my opinion clear enough. If something is still not understood then it’s not my fault, cause English is not my native language ;)

Oh, and it’s a pleasure to be discussing here. I’m genuinely surprised with the level of the comments – both the language used and the politeness are greatly above average. Keep it up!

]]> By: LeBread http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12571 LeBread Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:46:01 +0000 http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12571 @Johny: I'm a long time fan of anime and probably a whole lot more "elitist" than you yet I thought the show was tremendous triumph. Like Ez said, it's not the "superficial" what makes Gurren-Lagann shine but rather the charismatic execution and underlying ideals. The characterization takes common archetypes and brings them to life with a very magical charm; they feel natural and palpable thanks to the very talented animation staff and the incredible script. Predictable is not a valid criticism about any kind of narrative since it is meaningless as measurement of actual quality, especially with a show about as global and emotional as this. @Johny: I’m a long time fan of anime and probably a whole lot more “elitist” than you yet I thought the show was tremendous triumph. Like Ez said, it’s not the “superficial” what makes Gurren-Lagann shine but rather the charismatic execution and underlying ideals. The characterization takes common archetypes and brings them to life with a very magical charm; they feel natural and palpable thanks to the very talented animation staff and the incredible script. Predictable is not a valid criticism about any kind of narrative since it is meaningless as measurement of actual quality, especially with a show about as global and emotional as this.

]]> By: Ez http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12543 Ez Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:29:51 +0000 http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12543 Instead of the plot I felt that the main driving point of Gurren Lagann was it's execution and subliminal message. After all, as an emotional being it was the attachment and epic scale of Gurren Lagann that probably made it what it is to those who love it. As Bateszi also mentioned, I felt that the Lagann itself didn't have the most impact on the show, and it wasn't Simon's journey either, rather it was the a package of the whole thing itself. I would recommend Gurren Lagann to anime newcomers but I'm afraid that they'd be disappointed with whatever else they come across. xD Instead of the plot I felt that the main driving point of Gurren Lagann was it’s execution and subliminal message. After all, as an emotional being it was the attachment and epic scale of Gurren Lagann that probably made it what it is to those who love it. As Bateszi also mentioned, I felt that the Lagann itself didn’t have the most impact on the show, and it wasn’t Simon’s journey either, rather it was the a package of the whole thing itself.

I would recommend Gurren Lagann to anime newcomers but I’m afraid that they’d be disappointed with whatever else they come across. xD

]]> By: Johny http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12432 Johny Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:58:35 +0000 http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12432 @bateszi: Well the only character I felt attached to was killed off early on in the show. Ironically it made me more interested in the show for a while - after all, not many creators are brave enough to kill one of the main characters. On the other hand my newly found interest quickly faded away, as I couldn't really feel for any other character, as they seemed a bit cliche too me (Dai Gurren members) or I found their development to be awkward to say the least (Rossiu). Simon himself had the "been there, done that" feel too him in the sense that there's a standard pattern to his actions - I'll be in trouble, then I'll beat my own weaknesses and win. Repeat times infinity. Everything was pretty much predictable (beside the aforementioned death). Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying it's a bad anime. GL just didn't do it for me. After all the hype I expected more than a pretty straightforward tale about a boy fighting against the world. That and the whole mecha concept made me feel disappointed with GL. I woudln't recommend the show to any of my long time anime fans friends, but I guess GL would be a good choice for someone only starting his adventure with anime. @bateszi: Well the only character I felt attached to was killed off early on in the show. Ironically it made me more interested in the show for a while – after all, not many creators are brave enough to kill one of the main characters. On the other hand my newly found interest quickly faded away, as I couldn’t really feel for any other character, as they seemed a bit cliche too me (Dai Gurren members) or I found their development to be awkward to say the least (Rossiu). Simon himself had the “been there, done that” feel too him in the sense that there’s a standard pattern to his actions – I’ll be in trouble, then I’ll beat my own weaknesses and win. Repeat times infinity. Everything was pretty much predictable (beside the aforementioned death).
Don’t get me wrong – I’m not saying it’s a bad anime. GL just didn’t do it for me. After all the hype I expected more than a pretty straightforward tale about a boy fighting against the world. That and the whole mecha concept made me feel disappointed with GL. I woudln’t recommend the show to any of my long time anime fans friends, but I guess GL would be a good choice for someone only starting his adventure with anime.

]]> By: bateszi http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12382 bateszi Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:48:22 +0000 http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12382 @Johny: What about the story itself? I mean, I'm not exactly a massive fan of the mecha genre either, but what really hooked me into this anime was the sense of attachment I felt to the characters; I was totally rooting for their successes during their various struggles against fate, and I would suggest that you really have to feel for them before Gurren Lagann can properly get under your skin. @Johny: What about the story itself? I mean, I’m not exactly a massive fan of the mecha genre either, but what really hooked me into this anime was the sense of attachment I felt to the characters; I was totally rooting for their successes during their various struggles against fate, and I would suggest that you really have to feel for them before Gurren Lagann can properly get under your skin.

]]> By: Johny http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12380 Johny Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:29:09 +0000 http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-12380 I somehow cannot understand why people are so fascinated with Gurren Lagann. All the positive hype around the show made me want to see it, even though I am not a huge fan of mecha anime. Unfortunately that turned out to be a mistake - GL just made me remember why I hate mecha anime so much. A mech in a larger mech in an even larger mech flinging galaxies at another "mech" almost made my head explode because of the sheer stupidity of the idea. I guess it's just personal taste... I have to admit one thing though - the animation was superb, reminded me heavily of FLCL (Gainax - duh!) and was the only thing that kept me watching till the end. I somehow cannot understand why people are so fascinated with Gurren Lagann. All the positive hype around the show made me want to see it, even though I am not a huge fan of mecha anime. Unfortunately that turned out to be a mistake – GL just made me remember why I hate mecha anime so much. A mech in a larger mech in an even larger mech flinging galaxies at another “mech” almost made my head explode because of the sheer stupidity of the idea. I guess it’s just personal taste…
I have to admit one thing though – the animation was superb, reminded me heavily of FLCL (Gainax – duh!) and was the only thing that kept me watching till the end.

]]> By: Michael http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-3311 Michael Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:19:56 +0000 http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-3311 WHAT AN AWESOME SHOW. Oh god, I really wished I watch this series sooner. I finished it some time ago, and our sentiments are largely the same. :) WHAT AN AWESOME SHOW.

Oh god, I really wished I watch this series sooner. I finished it some time ago, and our sentiments are largely the same. :)

]]> By: Xerox http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-2532 Xerox Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:57:25 +0000 http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-2532 I missed first period this morning for the OST. It was just too damn good. I missed first period this morning for the OST. It was just too damn good.

]]> By: Protodude http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-2528 Protodude Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:42:16 +0000 http://www.bateszi.me/2007/10/02/the-end-of-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann/#comment-2528 God, this show was just to amazing! I don't know if I've ever been so pumped after watching an anime. Definitely a show I'll remember for a long time. God, this show was just to amazing! I don’t know if I’ve ever been so pumped after watching an anime. Definitely a show I’ll remember for a long time.

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