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		<title>By: Bateszi Anime Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2007/01/03/global-culture-infects-the-generations-with-hiphop/#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>Bateszi Anime Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Anime is dead...&lt;/strong&gt;

Try to define anime. You can&#8217;t, because your definition is redundant.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Anime is dead&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Try to define anime. You can&#8217;t, because your definition is redundant.<br />
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		<title>By: Hannibal the Great</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2007/01/03/global-culture-infects-the-generations-with-hiphop/#comment-611</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannibal the Great</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 23:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well where do i begin.. i think all you are just jealous or unhappy that the main character is a BLACK man,only black people like to see main black charcacters... and for the person that said  perverse notion if he has ever heard of one i can tell you one &quot; egyptians being tan carcausian&quot; and if you knew anything about history which you dont because it&#039;s all &quot;WHITEWASHED&quot;  you would know that there was AFRICAN in all of asia,europe.the americas centuries before the europeans and they were not slaves as you might think but scholars,teachers so on and so forth even boddhiedarhma was a black man yes the one that thought the shaolin monks martial arts because it originated in africa..believe me if you want all the inof is on the net look it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well where do i begin.. i think all you are just jealous or unhappy that the main character is a BLACK man,only black people like to see main black charcacters&#8230; and for the person that said  perverse notion if he has ever heard of one i can tell you one &quot; egyptians being tan carcausian&quot; and if you knew anything about history which you dont because it&#8217;s all &quot;WHITEWASHED&quot;  you would know that there was AFRICAN in all of asia,europe.the americas centuries before the europeans and they were not slaves as you might think but scholars,teachers so on and so forth even boddhiedarhma was a black man yes the one that thought the shaolin monks martial arts because it originated in africa..believe me if you want all the inof is on the net look it up</p>
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		<title>By: neobanzia</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2007/01/03/global-culture-infects-the-generations-with-hiphop/#comment-610</link>
		<dc:creator>neobanzia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 01:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Afro Samurai was some trite, even I will admit it, and I was looking forward to this show ever since it was a bunch of sketches on the original artist&#039;s website.

I think the most quality fusion of hip hop and eastern stylings was and will continue to be Samurai Champloo.

I enjoyed the animation of Afro Samurai , it was top-notch. But everything else , from the haphazard &quot;story&quot; and poor voice acting , made me cringe. And am I the only one who thought Samuel L. Jackson didn&#039;t say much..like..ever? 

Oh I&#039;ve never wanted to see a cartoon sidekick die more than that idiot that follows our protagonist around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Afro Samurai was some trite, even I will admit it, and I was looking forward to this show ever since it was a bunch of sketches on the original artist&#8217;s website.</p>
<p>I think the most quality fusion of hip hop and eastern stylings was and will continue to be Samurai Champloo.</p>
<p>I enjoyed the animation of Afro Samurai , it was top-notch. But everything else , from the haphazard &quot;story&quot; and poor voice acting , made me cringe. And am I the only one who thought Samuel L. Jackson didn&#8217;t say much..like..ever? </p>
<p>Oh I&#8217;ve never wanted to see a cartoon sidekick die more than that idiot that follows our protagonist around.</p>
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		<title>By: wirerat</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2007/01/03/global-culture-infects-the-generations-with-hiphop/#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>wirerat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 05:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a tough crowd. This is obviously the purist area....but you all have a point. After two episdodes i am ready to call it quits. I was hoping it would be something along the lines of &quot;Samuri 7&quot; but at least there was an interesting storyline to draw you in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a tough crowd. This is obviously the purist area&#8230;.but you all have a point. After two episdodes i am ready to call it quits. I was hoping it would be something along the lines of &quot;Samuri 7&quot; but at least there was an interesting storyline to draw you in.</p>
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		<title>By: bateszi</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2007/01/03/global-culture-infects-the-generations-with-hiphop/#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>bateszi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still haven&#039;t seen Afro Samurai yet but the first episode is sitting on my computer. I must admit I&#039;m attracted by its violent unpretentiousness and fluid action animation... You can&#039;t beat animation (especially anime) that actually moves. Fairly superficial reasons then... but sometimes its nice to just relax and switch off the brain in front of good eye candy! :)

&gt;&gt; VHD:Bloodlust - &quot;My problem is with the writing. For one, I think it&#039;s horribly cheesy and needlessly overwrought.&quot;

Very true. It actually reminded me of the way movies used to be in the black and white era, when everything was so melodramatic and contorted, almost operatic. The whole &quot;Vampires launching into space&quot; with emotional narration thing at the end is a great example of cheese taken (or should I say spread? :) ) too far. Ninja Scroll is Kawajiri&#039;s best work because it isn&#039;t needlessly corny, just pure action and natural emotional resonance.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still haven&#8217;t seen Afro Samurai yet but the first episode is sitting on my computer. I must admit I&#8217;m attracted by its violent unpretentiousness and fluid action animation&#8230; You can&#8217;t beat animation (especially anime) that actually moves. Fairly superficial reasons then&#8230; but sometimes its nice to just relax and switch off the brain in front of good eye candy! <img src='http://www.bateszi.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; VHD:Bloodlust &#8211; &quot;My problem is with the writing. For one, I think it&#8217;s horribly cheesy and needlessly overwrought.&quot;</p>
<p>Very true. It actually reminded me of the way movies used to be in the black and white era, when everything was so melodramatic and contorted, almost operatic. The whole &quot;Vampires launching into space&quot; with emotional narration thing at the end is a great example of cheese taken (or should I say spread? <img src='http://www.bateszi.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) too far. Ninja Scroll is Kawajiri&#8217;s best work because it isn&#8217;t needlessly corny, just pure action and natural emotional resonance.</p>
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		<title>By: kuromitsu</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2007/01/03/global-culture-infects-the-generations-with-hiphop/#comment-602</link>
		<dc:creator>kuromitsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Questmark
Yeah, I guess it depends on personal taste. I like to watch anime/etc to have fun, too, but I guess my idea of &quot;fun&quot; is just different.

Anyway, re: VHD:Bloodlust - I actually rather like the English voice acting, the voice actors did a very good job with what they had to work with. My problem is with the writing. For one, I think it&#039;s horribly cheesy and needlessly overwrought. Then there&#039;s the excessiveness of the dialogue - American anime dubs have a tendency to feature twice as much dialogue as the original, and in case of VHD:BL it totally kills the mood for me (I mean, it&#039;s basically a western!), not to mention that there are at least two scenes that I remember where the voice actors have to talk audibly faster to be able to say all their lines in time. Plus, the movie sometimes just doesn&#039;t make sense in English. I watched it quite a few times, but I only realized what the deal was with the squirrel joke when I first watched it in Japanese. (Not to mention the differences in story and characterization - really, the English and Japanese versions are sometimes like two different movies.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Questmark<br />
Yeah, I guess it depends on personal taste. I like to watch anime/etc to have fun, too, but I guess my idea of &quot;fun&quot; is just different.</p>
<p>Anyway, re: VHD:Bloodlust &#8211; I actually rather like the English voice acting, the voice actors did a very good job with what they had to work with. My problem is with the writing. For one, I think it&#8217;s horribly cheesy and needlessly overwrought. Then there&#8217;s the excessiveness of the dialogue &#8211; American anime dubs have a tendency to feature twice as much dialogue as the original, and in case of VHD:BL it totally kills the mood for me (I mean, it&#8217;s basically a western!), not to mention that there are at least two scenes that I remember where the voice actors have to talk audibly faster to be able to say all their lines in time. Plus, the movie sometimes just doesn&#8217;t make sense in English. I watched it quite a few times, but I only realized what the deal was with the squirrel joke when I first watched it in Japanese. (Not to mention the differences in story and characterization &#8211; really, the English and Japanese versions are sometimes like two different movies.)</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2007/01/03/global-culture-infects-the-generations-with-hiphop/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen Afro Samurai yet, nor would I go out of my way to watch it with so many other things lately grabbing my attention since I&#039;m not a big &#039;martial arts anime&#039; fan. Still, the &#039;fusion of influences&#039; aspect interests me - no doubt some purists will be disappointed with the way it is planned and marketed but the flow of ideas between Japan and the West has been two-way traffic for decades.

Hayao Miyazaki used a number of European locations when planning his films for instance, and the likes of Bubblegum Crisis and pretty much anything adapted from Masumune Shirow would be one heck of a lot different had Ridley Scott not read a Philip K Dick novel and made Blade Runner. Whether or not Afro Samurai is your &#039;thing&#039; or not, its merely one example of an ongoing trend of Japan and the West influencing one another in turns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen Afro Samurai yet, nor would I go out of my way to watch it with so many other things lately grabbing my attention since I&#8217;m not a big &#8216;martial arts anime&#8217; fan. Still, the &#8216;fusion of influences&#8217; aspect interests me &#8211; no doubt some purists will be disappointed with the way it is planned and marketed but the flow of ideas between Japan and the West has been two-way traffic for decades.</p>
<p>Hayao Miyazaki used a number of European locations when planning his films for instance, and the likes of Bubblegum Crisis and pretty much anything adapted from Masumune Shirow would be one heck of a lot different had Ridley Scott not read a Philip K Dick novel and made Blade Runner. Whether or not Afro Samurai is your &#8216;thing&#8217; or not, its merely one example of an ongoing trend of Japan and the West influencing one another in turns.</p>
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		<title>By: Questmark</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2007/01/03/global-culture-infects-the-generations-with-hiphop/#comment-604</link>
		<dc:creator>Questmark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.

Odd about the Vampire Hunter D BL dub, as that &#039;s one of my prime examples of a dub that I like, etc etc and I normally don&#039;t like dubs at all.

I agree-- one shouldn&#039;t like it just because it&#039;s been &quot;Americanified&quot;.  Of course.  And the show&#039;s obviously derivative.  For sure.  All of your points are valid.  My standards are obviously just different than yours.  Sometimes, I watch anime and movies just to hang out and have fun, rather than to be challenged.  The ep I watched was absurd, true, but it delivered the &quot;popcorn movie&quot; goods.

But if it doesn&#039;t for you, that&#039;s cool.  You do other things to get that fix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough.</p>
<p>Odd about the Vampire Hunter D BL dub, as that &#8217;s one of my prime examples of a dub that I like, etc etc and I normally don&#8217;t like dubs at all.</p>
<p>I agree&#8211; one shouldn&#8217;t like it just because it&#8217;s been &quot;Americanified&quot;.  Of course.  And the show&#8217;s obviously derivative.  For sure.  All of your points are valid.  My standards are obviously just different than yours.  Sometimes, I watch anime and movies just to hang out and have fun, rather than to be challenged.  The ep I watched was absurd, true, but it delivered the &quot;popcorn movie&quot; goods.</p>
<p>But if it doesn&#8217;t for you, that&#8217;s cool.  You do other things to get that fix.</p>
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		<title>By: kuromitsu</title>
		<link>http://www.bateszi.me/2007/01/03/global-culture-infects-the-generations-with-hiphop/#comment-605</link>
		<dc:creator>kuromitsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 08:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the problem is that I don&#039;t belong to the target demographics of Afro Samurai - I don&#039;t find &quot;MTV style shallowness&quot; entertaining in general, and when I do have a craving for some mindless violence I usually satisfy it with manga (more precisely Tenjou tenge which is brainless and pointless, but very pretty, and Dogs which is just incredibly stylish) rather than anime or even movies. That&#039;s why I said I wouldn&#039;t like Afro Samurai even if it was purely Japanese or purely American, I just wouldn&#039;t find it entertaining anyway. Still, I can&#039;t help regarding it as a waste of resources (especially knowing that Gonzo made it) and it&#039;s kind of sad that the first &quot;zomg American Anime!!&quot; is no more than this. They could&#039;ve at least tried to be creative or something. I hope that whatever the next project is, it&#039;ll be more than &quot;Ninja Scroll Extreme with Samuel L. Jackson.&quot;

My other problem with Afro Samurai is the same as with most &quot;global manga&quot; - it&#039;s trying so hard to be &quot;anime&quot; that it forgets that in the end, anime are cartoons, too. One of the reasons I enjoy Teen Titans (aside from the fact that I find it genuinely funny, whatever this says about my sense of humor) is that it is, in essence, just what its anime counterparts are: &quot;simply cartoons that don&#039;t condescend, that don&#039;t feature faultless personalities and aren&#039;t boring moralistic treacle.&quot; It doesn&#039;t have an attitude, doesn&#039;t have a point to prove (unlike Afro &quot;I&#039;m an American anime!&quot; Samurai), and aside of the visuals, it doesn&#039;t feature &quot;anime elements&quot; (which don&#039;t really exist anyway, only clichÃ©s). It&#039;s not trying to be &quot;anime,&quot; it&#039;s content to be an enjoyable &quot;cartoon.&quot; 

Meanwhile Afro Samurai, like so many OEL manga artists, falls into the trap of trying to approach the audience by being derivative so much that it forgets to be creative and going its own way (at least so far). And while I don&#039;t condemn any anime just because it&#039;s American, I don&#039;t see why I should appreciate an anime just because it&#039;s an American effort. (Kind of like how everyone is expected to love and appreciate the English dub of VHD:Bloodlust just because &quot;it was intended to be in English!&quot; That may be so, but the writing still sucks and the Japanese dub is much better.)  That doesn&#039;t make it any better for me, but then, I&#039;m not American so maybe I just have less &quot;built-in&quot; sympathy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the problem is that I don&#8217;t belong to the target demographics of Afro Samurai &#8211; I don&#8217;t find &#8220;MTV style shallowness&#8221; entertaining in general, and when I do have a craving for some mindless violence I usually satisfy it with manga (more precisely Tenjou tenge which is brainless and pointless, but very pretty, and Dogs which is just incredibly stylish) rather than anime or even movies. That&#8217;s why I said I wouldn&#8217;t like Afro Samurai even if it was purely Japanese or purely American, I just wouldn&#8217;t find it entertaining anyway. Still, I can&#8217;t help regarding it as a waste of resources (especially knowing that Gonzo made it) and it&#8217;s kind of sad that the first &#8220;zomg American Anime!!&#8221; is no more than this. They could&#8217;ve at least tried to be creative or something. I hope that whatever the next project is, it&#8217;ll be more than &#8220;Ninja Scroll Extreme with Samuel L. Jackson.&#8221;</p>
<p>My other problem with Afro Samurai is the same as with most &#8220;global manga&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s trying so hard to be &#8220;anime&#8221; that it forgets that in the end, anime are cartoons, too. One of the reasons I enjoy Teen Titans (aside from the fact that I find it genuinely funny, whatever this says about my sense of humor) is that it is, in essence, just what its anime counterparts are: &#8220;simply cartoons that don&#8217;t condescend, that don&#8217;t feature faultless personalities and aren&#8217;t boring moralistic treacle.&#8221; It doesn&#8217;t have an attitude, doesn&#8217;t have a point to prove (unlike Afro &#8220;I&#8217;m an American anime!&#8221; Samurai), and aside of the visuals, it doesn&#8217;t feature &#8220;anime elements&#8221; (which don&#8217;t really exist anyway, only clichÃ©s). It&#8217;s not trying to be &#8220;anime,&#8221; it&#8217;s content to be an enjoyable &#8220;cartoon.&#8221; </p>
<p>Meanwhile Afro Samurai, like so many OEL manga artists, falls into the trap of trying to approach the audience by being derivative so much that it forgets to be creative and going its own way (at least so far). And while I don&#8217;t condemn any anime just because it&#8217;s American, I don&#8217;t see why I should appreciate an anime just because it&#8217;s an American effort. (Kind of like how everyone is expected to love and appreciate the English dub of VHD:Bloodlust just because &#8220;it was intended to be in English!&#8221; That may be so, but the writing still sucks and the Japanese dub is much better.)  That doesn&#8217;t make it any better for me, but then, I&#8217;m not American so maybe I just have less &#8220;built-in&#8221; sympathy.</p>
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		<title>By: tj han</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 22:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I curse GONZO for scrapping Mardock Scramble for this. Anyway, have to agree with you on the MTV-style shallowness. But then again, since we don&#039;t get much mtv style shallowness with hot action in anime, I&#039;ll still watch Sam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I curse GONZO for scrapping Mardock Scramble for this. Anyway, have to agree with you on the MTV-style shallowness. But then again, since we don&#8217;t get much mtv style shallowness with hot action in anime, I&#8217;ll still watch Sam.</p>
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